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In this episode, Michael Hainsworth sits down with auto industry veteran Dennis DesRosiers and Jon Johnson, former advisor to the Canadian government during the NAFTA negotiations, to take a deep dive into the murky rules of origin for autos laid out in the new Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement and the challenges they pose for the industry.

Also on the subject of cars, Christopher Sands, senior research professor and director of the Center for Canadian Studies at Johns Hopkins University, talks about the U.S. government’s decision to rescind California’s auto industry emissions and fuel standards – and the opportunity it represents for Canada.